Curse

-Old 3FL- · Dec 27, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

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Originally Posted by Faer

Because all actors must act the same in all movies they have a part in.

The way he played Riddler before is not suitable for the recent Batman's.
They could do it and he could make the Riddler evil and dark, but till that day comes I'll stick to saying that the Riddler that he played before is not suitable for these new Batman movies.

Abedeus · Dec 27, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

You don't understand, do you.

Faer meant that Carrey CAN play an evil character. Just because he was told to play him a bit "less evil" doesn't mean he wouldn't if they told him to.

A Leprechaun · Dec 27, 2008, 02:36 PM // 14:36

I'm sure Jim Carrey could play the riddler in a much darker way and make him fit into the new films but lets face it, its not what Jim Carrey does best, if you are going to ask him to play it straight and sinister then you may as well just get someone like Johnny Deep who is more suited to those roles.
Also I 'd love to have a Catwoman in the next film, although she doesn't deserve a big role. The penguin would not fit in the new style of films (imo).

~A Leprechaun~

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Nightow after following your link to the wiki article for Batman's enemies I think your suggestion of Hugo Strange would be really good. I am not familiar with the batman universe other than the films/tv series but after reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Strange) I think him as the bad guy could be really good, mainly because I think a batman/zombie crossover film would be epic.

Nightow · Dec 27, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Looking at villains I think this guy looks epic:

Zsasz
*snip*

MMSDome, meet Nolan's Zsasz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsasz#Other_Media

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame

Hmm, increased role for Barbs, maybe? Since that is closer to canon, but as ground work for Oracle rather then Batgirl.

I'd still like to see a properly done Bane. Thorne and Black Mask would also be great if they don't wanna go on the superpowered track.

Much as I'd like to blame him, it was another actor that did Forbidden Kingdom. Not much difference in their acting styles though.

Judging from how well the last film with Bane did, I don't think we'll be seeing him and his cohorts any time soon.

And thank you for clarifying that, it was Michael Angarano and not Shia. My bad.

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

Nightow after following your link to the wiki article for Batman's enemies I think your suggestion of Hugo Strange would be really good. I am not familiar with the batman universe other than the films/tv series but after reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Strange) I think him as the bad guy could be really good, mainly because I think a batman/zombie crossover film would be epic.

Zombies aside, yes I do believe he would fit in nicely with Nolan's version of the Batman universe. He is genuinely realistic, has a long lasting history with the caped crusader (Some say he was Batman's first recurring villain, circa 1940) and has been in many other adaptations of the Batman storyline.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Dec 27, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Eddie playing Riddler would be pitiful. Doctor Who might be able to work it, but Depp would be outstanding for the role. Penguin would be difficult to mesh into the more modern darkness of Nolan's films, but if he were to show up I'd want Hoffman playing him. An idea for Two Face: Ed Norton.

A Leprechaun · Dec 27, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

An idea for Two Face: Ed Norton.

Have you even seen The Dark Knight?! Two-face has been and gone my friend.

~A Leprechaun~

Nightow · Dec 27, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

Have you even seen The Dark Knight?! Two-face has been and gone my friend.

~A Leprechaun~

Not that I think Nolan would dream of pulling something like this off but comics are known for their "retcons."

Sleeper Service · Dec 28, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Not that I think Nolan would dream of pulling something like this off but comics are known for their "retcons."

"retconing" in comics is not so much modifying a particular (story) arc as destroying/creating a parallel one.

long running series all run into the same problem. for it to be worthwhile to push that giant "reset" button the subject matter has to become stale or just plain wrong.

current movie version of DK is too satisfying to warrant a reset imo...even though the death of Heath Ledger has probably shortened it quite a bit, rather than screw it all up with a lame "joker spinoff" like Quinn they would be well advised to keep away from him or start again.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Dec 28, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Nay, I've not yet seen Dark Knight. /cry

Nightow · Dec 28, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

Nay, I've not yet seen Dark Knight. /cry

Wut are you waiting for? Go see it.... NOW!

Lord Sojar · Dec 28, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59

I would disagree with many of you; Shia is pretty sexeh, but yeh.... no Robin unless he is older.

Riddler = a go

Catwoman = stretching it a bit

Hugo Strange = a go

Mr. Freeze = a big stretch

Two Face = already there

Poison Ivy = very possible

FireFox · Dec 28, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

needs moar Harley Quinn

Nightow · Dec 28, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

I would disagree with many of you; Shia is pretty sexeh, but yeh.... no Robin unless he is older.

Riddler = a go

Catwoman = stretching it a bit

Hugo Strange = a go

Mr. Freeze = a big stretch

Two Face = already there

Poison Ivy = very possible

Robin = Never

And why is Poision Ivy "Very Possible" and yet Mr. Freeze is just a "big stretch"? They were both in the same horrible film and they both came off as very cheesy characters in the eyes of many.

Apoc · Dec 31, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Uh, Nolan has stated multiple times that he will not include Robin in his movies.

As for The Riddler... hehe, I'd like to see Guy Pearce working with Nolan again; this time though, instead of tattooed notes on his body, it'll be question marks.

I recently read the new Joker graphic novel, and damn, it'd interesting to see Killer Croc and Harley Quinn in Nolan's "world". Their portrayal in the story is quite realistic: Croc being a big black thug with bad skin condition and Harley being a cold-blood killer with a prostitute-like appearance.

For any Batfans who love Nolan's vision or Heath's Joker, I suggest you to pick it up; great read.

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=10157

Arkantos · Dec 31, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior

Uh, let's see... A hot woman dressed in leather surrounded by cats? Not to mention all the acrobatic stunts she can do?

Yeah, let's do the math here...

If I want to watch a hot woman, I'll watch a porn. If I want to watch Batman, I'd rather not have a stupid character like Catwoman in it.

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I think the movie "The Number 23" was evidence enough that Jim Carrey can play a serious, dark role.

This.

I'm positive Jim Carrey would be able to play the Riddler in the current Batman series. However, I'm sure they'll look for a new one.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 31, 2008, 07:33 AM // 07:33

end the batman movies on darknight. doubt it's going to be surpassed

Lord Sojar · Dec 31, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Robin = Never

And why is Poision Ivy "Very Possible" and yet Mr. Freeze is just a "big stretch"? They were both in the same horrible film and they both came off as very cheesy characters in the eyes of many.

That is irrelevant. The reason Ivy would be possible is because she could be portrayed as just a crazy woman and seductress. Freeze is way to SciFi for Nolan's world.

Any villain grounded in reality will work; scifi crazy ones won't.

Etta · Dec 31, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Huntress or Azrael would be a better choice than Robin. Bane or Hush are more interesting to see than the classic bad guys as well.

Sleeper Service · Dec 31, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

That is irrelevant. The reason Ivy would be possible is because she could be portrayed as just a crazy woman and seductress. Freeze is way to SciFi for Nolan's world.

Any villain grounded in reality will work; scifi crazy ones won't.

grounded in reality what?

stop and think for a second there.

my vote goes to

Dante the Warlord · Dec 31, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

That is irrelevant. The reason Ivy would be possible is because she could be portrayed as just a crazy woman and seductress. Freeze is way to SciFi for Nolan's world.

Any villain grounded in reality will work; scifi crazy ones won't.

On top of that it would be a great continuation with Bruce looking for a woman to bury his sorrows in. After the death of his long loved woman... I would prefer Harley Quinn as well =), being that the joker will not be in the next one. Still its a long time till the next batman will come out, about two more years.. Who knows whats going to happen.